22 March 2013
Subject matter - Just been "disallowed" by the jobcentre.
Dan Kinobi :- The Jobcentre, what a joke. Taking benefits off people who are actually doing what is required of them. As if thats not a recipe for total disaster for this country. *sigh.
LG :- Jobcentre - making people jump through hoops for pennies since 1910.
22 March at 12:02 · Like · 1
Dan Kinobi :- If the government spent some time actually making sure big business paid the tax they were supposed to, then they wouldn't have to try and pinch pennies off the poor.
22 March at 12:43 · Like · 1
LG :- Agree. Politics are never straight forward but it's not hard to see when things are just not working...in fact driving us down.
22 March at 12:54 · Like
Dan Kinobi :- Lol when people who are abiding by the requirements asked of them, are penalised, i.e they've done nothing wrong, and they try and cut benefits. They're asking for trouble.
22 March at 12:59 · Like · 1
Dan Kinobi :- If this is a widespread phenomenon...(ah however its spelt, being lazy) then the shit will hit the fan. People won't just lie down and die. Social cleansing man.
22 March at 13:02 · Like · 1
AF :- But if the poor had a job they would not need the benefits
22 March at 14:58 via mobile · Like · 1
Dan Kinobi :- Theres a lot of people out there with jobs, who have to claim benefits as well actually ade.
22 March at 15:05 · Like
Dan Kinobi :- Because of a ridiculously low national minimum wage compared with the rest of europe, high cost of living, and unstable job market.
22 March at 15:06 · Like
AF :- The way you worded your comment suggested to me that you think people are entitled to money for free without accepting the person should go above and beyond to solve their situation
22 March at 15:08 via mobile · Like
AF :- People should not be able to live their life paid for by the state not for ten odd years at a time it's not fair for those paying for it
22 March at 15:10 via mobile · Like
Dan Kinobi :- I think people are entitled to the ability to survive in a society yes. Once you take that entitlement away, well people won't respect laws any more and you will see the breakdown or a society. Why should anyone, abide by or respect laws, that are detrimental to them? Or that prevent them from the basics required to survive?
22 March at 15:10 · Like · 1
AF :- Or people could stop expecting to be spoon fed and take control of their own situation
22 March at 15:12 via mobile · Like
Dan Kinobi :- Propoganda.....heres the facts about that, copied and pasted from a dude posting on the guardian....but the source is the dwp....
Living on benefits is a lifestyle choice?
Only 0.1% of benefit claimants who have claimed for 10 years or more are actually unemployed. Less than 5,000 people, out of over 9 million 16-64 year olds who don't work, have been on Job Seekers Allowance for more than 5 years. Less than 0.1% of the 20 million working age households have 2 generations that have never had a permanent job. Despite strenuous efforts, researchers have been unable to find any families where three generations have never worked.
22 March at 15:12 · Like · 1
AF :- If you have a job you have an ability to survive maybe not as comfortably as someone with a better job but there has to be limits
22 March at 15:14 via mobile · Like
Dan Kinobi :- no there doesn't. Humanity and compassion is in looking after others in society. Whats happening is the opposite, the poor are being oppressed, while the real criminals extort, scam or avoid paying their fair share.
22 March at 15:15 · Like · 1
AF :- Who's to say your not spreading propergander for the otherside
22 March at 15:16 via mobile · Like
Dan Kinobi :- what for the poor people? The people who are having their benefits stopped, because of some ridiculous penny pinching idea, resulting in bad situations and a whole load of extra grief?
22 March at 15:19 · Like
AF :- The poor in general are lazy and happy with what they have . And you say they avoid paying their share oh yeah because long term benefit claimants are really paying their fair share
22 March at 15:19 via mobile · Like
Dan Kinobi how do you know what that long term benefit claimant does?
22 March at 15:20 · Like
Dan Kinobi :- they might be helping out with a disabled family member...and giving up their own life to do that...and you've just judged them with the same brush.....be mindful of your words dude
22 March at 15:21 · Like
Dan Kinobi They might even be helping a friend
22 March at 15:21 · Like
AF :- Carrot and stick compassion and all that does not mean spoon feed people they are in charge of their own destiny and if they can't be arsed noone else should have to pay over the odds to do this
22 March at 15:21 via mobile · Like
Dan Kinobi so they are deemed not worthy of receiving benefits in your little world ade\?
22 March at 15:22 · Like
Dan Kinobi :- you've gotta get outta the brainwashed state of thinking benefit claimants are all scamming the system dude, theres a lot of students out there, young people who want to work, but either cant find employment, not to mention if you do find employment it'll more than likely be a shit wage, which you'll need to top up with benefits, because of greed
22 March at 15:24 · Like
AF :- I don't give a shit what they are doing sure as shit they ain't working and paying back in if someone thinks they should be paid by everyone else to do nothing then it's selfish of them life sucks you make the best of what you got not just useing the system
22 March at 15:25 via mobile · Like
Dan Kinobi The first politican to stand up to the corporation has my vote. And i mean stand up not pretend to stand up
22 March at 15:25 · Like
AF :- I am on about unemployment benefit I am not on about any other benefit
22 March at 15:26 via mobile · Like
Dan Kinobi don't you claim unemployment benefit at the mo ade? Or jsa as its commonly called
22 March at 15:27 · Like
AF · 2 mutual friends :- Blah blah blah so not it's the corporations fault that peoples benefits gets stopped when are people going to take responsibility for themselves oh and because someone disagrees with your views you say they have been brainwashed and they live in their own little world good argument
22 March at 15:30 via mobile · Like
AF :- Why does a company have any loyalty to the unemployed what good are they to the company
22 March at 15:31 via mobile · Like
Dan Kinobi :- you have been brainwashed, not because you disagree with me, but because your spouting the same tired bullshit about the poor being such a massive burden on society, when the facts and figures show the figures for benefits are grossly outweighed by for example the amount lent to bail out the banks, and the amount of corporation tax that gets avoided, by all these really responsible corporations that you love to defend
22 March at 15:33 · Like
Dan Kinobi :- they are the reason we don't have as much tax in the system, and thus why the poor are being persecuted
22 March at 15:34 · Like
Dan Kinobi :- they are the root of the problem
22 March at 15:34 · Like
Dan Kinobi :- they operate without the boundaries of nations, not paying tax, dictating shit from the governments around the world
22 March at 15:35 · Like
Dan Kinobi :- they are the reason why the police force is being privatised...why the nhs is on the way to being privatised
22 March at 15:36 · Like
AF :- Yes I do claim it but if I get offered a job I will take it because I want one and need one so the long term future of the benefit office is not my concern my life is what I am concerned with
22 March at 15:36 via mobile · Like
Dan Kinobi :- o.k ade so say tomorrow you get hit by a bus, hopefully you wont, but you do, then a natural disaster destroys your mums farm. Both freak acts, neither you could control. Your fucked you haven't got a penny to your name, and your disabled for life.
You gonna claim benefits for 10 years then you fucking sponger?
22 March at 15:38 · Like
AF :- More money gets spent on benefits than the nhs and the mod combined and if you don't bail out the banks then you def have no benefits at all
22 March at 15:38 via mobile · Like
AF :- I think you label all companies as if they are all multinational corporations
22 March at 15:39 via mobile · Like
AF :- And do you notice it's only the poor who label themselves as poor it's all about the mindset
22 March at 15:40 via mobile · Like
Dan Kinobi :- yes the problem is the mindset ade your right
22 March at 15:42 · Like
Dan Kinobi :- the mindset of those who can sit and watch idly as their fellow human-beings suffer
22 March at 15:43 · Like
AF :- That statement alone shows you judge and label people wrongly what are you suggesting that my mom is rich and without her I would be a long term claimant this is total shit
22 March at 15:43 via mobile · Like
Dan Kinobi :- or say you there....with the back breaking weight on your shoulders......your slacking off.....you should be working harder/faster
22 March at 15:43 · Like
AF :- Not to mention offensive
22 March at 15:44 via mobile · Like
Dan Kinobi :- your the one drawing assumptions dude. I was merely suggesting a hypothetical situation, where you might be disabled in need of help, and not have the support of any one other than society
22 March at 15:45 · Like
Dan Kinobi :- which a lot of people probably are
22 March at 15:45 · Like
AF :- You seem to think I am rich if this was the case would my car be off the road would I be selling a load of my stuff you are Ill informed to the max
22 March at 15:46 via mobile · Like
Dan Kinobi :- dude it was a hypothetical situation
22 March at 15:47 · Like
Dan Kinobi :- a pretty grim one, but one to make a point
22 March at 15:47 · Like
Dan Kinobi :- there are people in society who need help
22 March at 15:48 · Like
Dan Kinobi :- rather than pointing the finger, why not lend a hand
22 March at 15:48 · Like
Dan Kinobi :- or at least dont point a finger lol
22 March at 15:49 · Like
Dan Kinobi :- unless its warranted of course. Not saying all poor people are like some shining light, theres gonna be a few bad eggs in there as well
22 March at 15:50 · Like
AF :- The poor as you call them should stop feeling sorry for themselves and get off their ass and get out there and make things happen not just sit and complain about their situation but they wont because they pull the you should support me or it's not fair card personally I wouldn't give them any money food vouchers is all they need
22 March at 15:50 via mobile · Like
Dan Kinobi :- whys that? Why wont you give them money? You think they're untrustworthy ade?
Editted for spelling:- 8/10/15
Original Source:- https://www.facebook.com/J3D15/posts/10151394481161089
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